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		<title>Comment on Warren Buffett&#8217;s Favored Measure of Market Valuation Passes Unwelcome Milestone by Tobias Carlisle</title>
		<link>http://greenbackd.com/2013/05/22/warren-buffetts-favored-measure-of-market-valuation-passes-unwelcome-milestone/#comment-18577</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tobias Carlisle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 21:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All good points. One data point to bear in mind is that at year-end, the Wilshire 5000 had 3,687 stocks (not 5,000). There are fewer public companies today than there were in at the peak in 2000 (6,639 – See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2013/03/17/public-companies-vanishing-fewer-stocks/1920681/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;USAToday&lt;/a&gt;). If anything, the reduced number of listed stocks point to the total market capitalization being overstated, suggesting that the presently elevated TMC/GNP ratio might be understated. Noting, however, that the current ratio roughly agrees with the Shiller PE and Tobin’s q might suggest that it’s roughly accurate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All good points. One data point to bear in mind is that at year-end, the Wilshire 5000 had 3,687 stocks (not 5,000). There are fewer public companies today than there were in at the peak in 2000 (6,639 – See <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2013/03/17/public-companies-vanishing-fewer-stocks/1920681/" rel="nofollow">USAToday</a>). If anything, the reduced number of listed stocks point to the total market capitalization being overstated, suggesting that the presently elevated TMC/GNP ratio might be understated. Noting, however, that the current ratio roughly agrees with the Shiller PE and Tobin’s q might suggest that it’s roughly accurate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Warren Buffett&#8217;s Favored Measure of Market Valuation Passes Unwelcome Milestone by adam</title>
		<link>http://greenbackd.com/2013/05/22/warren-buffetts-favored-measure-of-market-valuation-passes-unwelcome-milestone/#comment-18576</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[adam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 20:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is a very important macro-econ measure, but there is a big problem in that it only captures publicly traded mkt cap, and over long periods, the public/private structure of the economy changes. The other problem is that the U.S. is not a closed system and a large amount of U.S. corp profits come from overseas (much more than foreign-corp profits that are earned in the U.S.).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a very important macro-econ measure, but there is a big problem in that it only captures publicly traded mkt cap, and over long periods, the public/private structure of the economy changes. The other problem is that the U.S. is not a closed system and a large amount of U.S. corp profits come from overseas (much more than foreign-corp profits that are earned in the U.S.).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quantitative Value: A Practitioner&#8217;s Guide to Automating Intelligent Investment and Eliminating Behavioral Errors by Warren Buffett&#8217;s Favored Measure of Market Valuation Passes Unwelcome Milestone &#124; Greenbackd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren Buffett&#8217;s Favored Measure of Market Valuation Passes Unwelcome Milestone &#124; Greenbackd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 16:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The Physics Of Investing In Expensive Markets: How to Apply Simple Statistical Models by Warren Buffett&#8217;s Favored Measure of Market Valuation Passes Unwelcome Milestone &#124; Greenbackd</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 16:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] For more on market value-to-GNP see my earlier posts Warren Buffett Talks… Total Market Value-To-Gross National Product, Warren Buffett and John Hussman On The Stock Market, FRED on Buffett’s favored market measure: Total Market Value-to-GNP, The Physics Of Investing In Expensive Markets: How to Apply Simple Statistical Models. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] For more on market value-to-GNP see my earlier posts Warren Buffett Talks… Total Market Value-To-Gross National Product, Warren Buffett and John Hussman On The Stock Market, FRED on Buffett’s favored market measure: Total Market Value-to-GNP, The Physics Of Investing In Expensive Markets: How to Apply Simple Statistical Models. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on FRED on Buffett&#8217;s favored market measure: Total Market Value-to-GNP by Warren Buffett&#8217;s Favored Measure of Market Valuation Passes Unwelcome Milestone &#124; Greenbackd</title>
		<link>http://greenbackd.com/2013/03/28/fred-on-buffetts-favored-market-measure-total-market-value-to-gnp/#comment-18568</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 16:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Market Value-To-Gross National Product, Warren Buffett and John Hussman On The Stock Market, FRED on Buffett’s favored market measure: Total Market Value-to-GNP, The Physics Of Investing In Expensive Markets: How to Apply Simple [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Warren Buffett and John Hussman On The Stock Market by Warren Buffett&#8217;s Favored Measure of Market Valuation Passes Unwelcome Milestone &#124; Greenbackd</title>
		<link>http://greenbackd.com/2013/03/25/warren-buffett-and-john-hussman-on-the-stock-market/#comment-18567</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren Buffett&#8217;s Favored Measure of Market Valuation Passes Unwelcome Milestone &#124; Greenbackd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 16:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] see my earlier posts Warren Buffett Talks… Total Market Value-To-Gross National Product, Warren Buffett and John Hussman On The Stock Market, FRED on Buffett’s favored market measure: Total Market Value-to-GNP, The Physics Of Investing [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] see my earlier posts Warren Buffett Talks… Total Market Value-To-Gross National Product, Warren Buffett and John Hussman On The Stock Market, FRED on Buffett’s favored market measure: Total Market Value-to-GNP, The Physics Of Investing [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Warren Buffett Talks&#8230; Total Market Value-To-Gross National Product by Warren Buffett&#8217;s Favored Measure of Market Valuation Passes Unwelcome Milestone &#124; Greenbackd</title>
		<link>http://greenbackd.com/2013/05/03/warren-buffett-talks-people-listen/#comment-18566</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 16:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] more on market value-to-GNP see my earlier posts Warren Buffett Talks… Total Market Value-To-Gross National Product, Warren Buffett and John Hussman On The Stock Market, FRED on Buffett’s favored market [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] more on market value-to-GNP see my earlier posts Warren Buffett Talks… Total Market Value-To-Gross National Product, Warren Buffett and John Hussman On The Stock Market, FRED on Buffett’s favored market [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Warren Buffett Talks&#8230; Total Market Value-To-Gross National Product by Adam Butler</title>
		<link>http://greenbackd.com/2013/05/03/warren-buffett-talks-people-listen/#comment-18540</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Butler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 16:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m gobsmacked by the vitriol in the comment section. Tobias, this is an excellent repost of a very thoughtful analysis by Chris Turner.

Buffett is irrelevant as a stock timing indicator; he has no choice but to talk his book.

There is very good evidence based on long-term Q ratio, smoothed PE, price regressions, and mkt cap / GNP metrics that the market just reached FAIR VALUE in March of 2009, and that stocks have essentially been in bubble territory since 1994, with the exception of the few months near the bottom of the 08/09 bear.

Low interest rates and QE are the ONLY driver of current bubble valuations, and when the music stops stocks are going to endure another protracted bear market for a decade or more to correct the current excesses.

Those who insist on using irrelevant metrics like TTM PE or forward operating PE to value stocks have been deluded by the biggest sales machine on earth - the Wall Street Complex. We&#039;ve probably borrowed 20 years of future returns to push prices to these levels.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m gobsmacked by the vitriol in the comment section. Tobias, this is an excellent repost of a very thoughtful analysis by Chris Turner.</p>
<p>Buffett is irrelevant as a stock timing indicator; he has no choice but to talk his book.</p>
<p>There is very good evidence based on long-term Q ratio, smoothed PE, price regressions, and mkt cap / GNP metrics that the market just reached FAIR VALUE in March of 2009, and that stocks have essentially been in bubble territory since 1994, with the exception of the few months near the bottom of the 08/09 bear.</p>
<p>Low interest rates and QE are the ONLY driver of current bubble valuations, and when the music stops stocks are going to endure another protracted bear market for a decade or more to correct the current excesses.</p>
<p>Those who insist on using irrelevant metrics like TTM PE or forward operating PE to value stocks have been deluded by the biggest sales machine on earth &#8211; the Wall Street Complex. We&#8217;ve probably borrowed 20 years of future returns to push prices to these levels.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quantitative Value: A Practitioner&#8217;s Guide to Automating Intelligent Investment and Eliminating Behavioral Errors by Why A Complex World Needs Simpler Rules, And Absolute Metrics: Have You Ever Owned A Motorcycle? &#124; Greenbackd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why A Complex World Needs Simpler Rules, And Absolute Metrics: Have You Ever Owned A Motorcycle? &#124; Greenbackd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 16:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Bull Markets Since 1871: Duration and Magnitude by update: I&#8217;m still here! &#124; The Trough</title>
		<link>http://greenbackd.com/2013/04/17/bull-markets-since-1871-duration-and-magnitude/#comment-18478</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[update: I&#8217;m still here! &#124; The Trough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 17:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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